tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post260072811984788116..comments2024-03-23T11:34:22.691+00:00Comments on Orbital Bombardment - The Miniature Gaming Blog and Podcast: Getting Started: Shaltari Unit Overview and TacticsDan Cateshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15833384756094198088noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-41555897877259979062015-05-26T18:36:03.773+01:002015-05-26T18:36:03.773+01:00Lists are a little hard to do in comments, but if ...Lists are a little hard to do in comments, but if you email us at obteamdzc@gmail.com I'll stick something together for you!Dan Cateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15833384756094198088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-33977647553558399482015-05-26T02:55:35.063+01:002015-05-26T02:55:35.063+01:00I need a 1,000 point list to work with over the ne...I need a 1,000 point list to work with over the next few weeks worth of games, any thoughts? I have multiples of all of the Shaltari models and can make just about any list...Maelstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06671926069884921312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-21272795971577741342015-05-03T11:02:09.628+01:002015-05-03T11:02:09.628+01:00Thank you - I look forward to any new articles!Thank you - I look forward to any new articles!Maelstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06671926069884921312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-53588244710911319632015-04-07T17:27:19.295+01:002015-04-07T17:27:19.295+01:00You know, I've been thinking about this over t...You know, I've been thinking about this over the last few weeks. When I get some extra spare time (as current spare time goes towards shiny new posts) I will definitely update this!Dan Cateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15833384756094198088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-73429956365438625712015-04-07T17:18:45.983+01:002015-04-07T17:18:45.983+01:00Any updates for 2015??Any updates for 2015??Maelstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06671926069884921312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-40561134411605899712014-06-03T16:35:12.787+01:002014-06-03T16:35:12.787+01:00Cheers man for the help man you're a legend ^^...Cheers man for the help man you're a legend ^^Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16414498738390493366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-82891098936094144592014-06-03T12:56:39.416+01:002014-06-03T12:56:39.416+01:00Another solid list, probs better than the previous...Another solid list, probs better than the previous one! If you can fit 4 troops in I would advise it. I'm not really a fan of Dreamsnare, so it would be a worthwhile swap out (I am bias).<br /><br />If you have any more list inquiries just drop me a PM on the Hawk forums (http://hawkforum.co.uk/)!Dan Cateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15833384756094198088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-8494558251063340112014-06-02T14:32:53.507+01:002014-06-02T14:32:53.507+01:00well could do a straight swap dropping the dreamsn...well could do a straight swap dropping the dreamsnare for braves moving the drake to warfist in that most recent list making room for the extra braves now that im looking at. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16414498738390493366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-80799426261465469282014-06-02T14:24:11.115+01:002014-06-02T14:24:11.115+01:00its the diff between £140 and £217(ish) ^^ as for ...its the diff between £140 and £217(ish) ^^ as for more braves i wish i could have no support slots to move the drake out the troops and cant put more than 3 units per battlegroup and i have the full 6 battle groups, can help the anti air issue and help some of the gate issue by dropping down the command level to warchief dropping a jaguar for bird eaters, something like this<br /><br />Standard Army<br />Clash: 1499/1500 points<br />Standard Army<br /> Standard Roster [1499/1500 pts]<br /> Gate Group [231 pts]<br /> Gaia: Gaia [76 pts]<br /> Spirit Gates: 2x Spirit [80 pts]<br /> Haven: Haven [15 pts]<br /> Haven: Haven [15 pts]<br /> Eden Gates: Eden [45 pts]<br /> Court of Elders [401 pts]<br /> Coyote: Coyote(Warchief) [205 pts]<br /> Firstborns: 2x Firstborns [96 pts]<br /> Jaguar Squad: Jaguar [100 pts]<br /> Swordpoint [285 pts]<br /> Tarantula Squad: 4x Tarantula [220 pts]<br /> Dreamsnare: Dreamsnare [65 pts]<br /> Warrior Clan [258 pts]<br /> Braves: 2x Braves [64 pts]<br /> Braves: 2x Braves [64 pts]<br /> Firedrake: Firedrake [130 pts]<br /> Warfist [216 pts]<br /> Jaguar Squad: Jaguar [100 pts]<br /> Birdeater Squad: 2x Birdeater [116 pts]<br /> Speartip [108 pts]<br /> Yari Squad: 4x Yari(+Light Ion Cannon) [108 pts]<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16414498738390493366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-7602805678316328092014-06-02T13:23:03.394+01:002014-06-02T13:23:03.394+01:00Your ground presence in that list would be incredi...Your ground presence in that list would be incredible, and pretty durable too.It will be a little slow however, and could do with another unit of braves and definitely more fine mass gates. If you have a budget and this list is a fair amount cheaper, the list is far from bad. My biggest concern with it is actually the AA. Shaltari have numerous AA shots which is one of their plus points, but with only 3 Jags you will find yourself restricted due to fire rate and the speed of the unit.<br /><br />A lot, to all of my advice is from a tournament point of view however, and if you are playing with friends at the moment either list should do you well!Dan Cateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15833384756094198088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-33626953570154542432014-06-02T07:39:28.857+01:002014-06-02T07:39:28.857+01:00The other thing im toying with in my mind is the o...The other thing im toying with in my mind is the offer they have on the site the "daves 1500pt army deal" the issue im having with it though is i dont like warspears however with the extra models u get in the box that are not in the list i came up with this, although im afraid a high warcheif in 1500 may be a huge investment. but if the list looks ok i might run with this as its a far cheaper entrance into the game. hows this?<br /><br />Second Draft<br />Clash: 1493/1500 points<br />Standard Army<br /> Standard Roster [1493/1500 pts]<br /> Gate Group [191 pts]<br /> Gaia: Gaia [76 pts]<br /> Spirit Gates: Spirit [40 pts]<br /> Haven: Haven [15 pts]<br /> Haven: Haven [15 pts]<br /> Eden Gates: Eden [45 pts]<br /> Court of Elders [451 pts]<br /> Coyote: Coyote(High Warchief) [255 pts]<br /> Firstborns: 2x Firstborns [96 pts]<br /> Jaguar Squad: Jaguar [100 pts]<br /> Swordpoint [285 pts]<br /> Tarantula Squad: 4x Tarantula [220 pts]<br /> Dreamsnare: Dreamsnare [65 pts]<br /> Warrior Clan [258 pts]<br /> Braves: 2x Braves [64 pts]<br /> Braves: 2x Braves [64 pts]<br /> Firedrake: Firedrake [130 pts]<br /> Warfist [200 pts]<br /> Jaguar Squad: Jaguar [100 pts]<br /> Jaguar Squad: Jaguar [100 pts]<br /> Speartip [108 pts]<br /> Yari Squad: 4x Yari(+Light Ion Cannon) [108 pts]<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16414498738390493366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-79959605761826861872014-06-02T02:03:08.312+01:002014-06-02T02:03:08.312+01:00Hey thanks for the response! needed the confidence...Hey thanks for the response! needed the confidence to put my money where my mouth was, gonna purchase the list tonight ^^Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16414498738390493366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-52407158223853651502014-06-01T21:45:22.231+01:002014-06-01T21:45:22.231+01:00Hey repentia, what you have there is a nice balanc...Hey repentia, what you have there is a nice balanced list! I would recommend gating your walkers onto the battlefield, as they will be far to slow walking on. This may cause problems in what to choose to deploy first, but persevere, you'll get there! I often don't bring my Tarantulas out until turn 3.Dan Cateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15833384756094198088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-66683884680288535172014-06-01T13:37:23.540+01:002014-06-01T13:37:23.540+01:00Hello zombiestate, newcomer here just starting out...Hello zombiestate, newcomer here just starting out. i found this very insightful. I wrote a list based on the what you said only i gave it a more walker theme, do you think this could be a good start?<br /><br />First Draft<br />Clash: 1497/1500 points<br />Standard Army<br /> Standard Roster [1497/1500 pts]<br /> Gate Group [230 pts]<br /> Eden Gates: 2x Eden [90 pts]<br /> Spirit Gates: 2x Spirit [80 pts]<br /> Haven: Haven [15 pts]<br /> Haven: Haven [15 pts]<br /> Haven: Haven [15 pts]<br /> Haven: Haven [15 pts]<br /> Court of Elders [301 pts]<br /> Coyote: Coyote(Warchief) [205 pts]<br /> Firstborns: 2x Firstborns [96 pts]<br /> Swordpoint [336 pts]<br /> Tarantula Squad: 4x Tarantula [220 pts]<br /> Birdeater Squad: 2x Birdeater [116 pts]<br /> Warrior Clan [128 pts]<br /> Braves: 2x Braves [64 pts]<br /> Braves: 2x Braves [64 pts]<br /> Warrior Clan [194 pts]<br /> Braves: 2x Braves [64 pts]<br /> Firedrake: Firedrake [130 pts]<br /> Warfist [200 pts]<br /> Jaguar Squad: Jaguar [100 pts]<br /> Jaguar Squad: Jaguar [100 pts]<br /> Speartip [108 pts]<br /> Yari Squad: 4x Yari(+Light Ion Cannon) [108 pts]Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16414498738390493366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-41261509477851380622014-03-28T16:58:31.857+00:002014-03-28T16:58:31.857+00:00Cheers man :) Gonna get my paint on over the next ...Cheers man :) Gonna get my paint on over the next week or so. Im sure there will be some questions along the way once the games start :DThe Grim Badgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14819808034153258799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-23027789427460786242014-03-28T12:08:37.294+00:002014-03-28T12:08:37.294+00:00You are very welcome, and I'm glad I can help!...You are very welcome, and I'm glad I can help! If you have anymore questions just pop them over, they can be useful for others who are thinking the same thing to read.Dan Cateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15833384756094198088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-63320431962899068732014-03-27T20:54:31.249+00:002014-03-27T20:54:31.249+00:00Cheers for the insights! Extremely helpful indeed!...Cheers for the insights! Extremely helpful indeed! I have to say after doing a fair bit of research into the Shaltari the more I'm thinking that you've really cracked how they should function! I've purchased a 1500 army along very similar lines to yours, just got to learn how to put it all together on hurt battlefield now but your article above will be of great great help, sir! Thank you once again :)<br />The Grim Badgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14819808034153258799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-77678822643878290022014-03-27T16:18:19.330+00:002014-03-27T16:18:19.330+00:00I have played a few games using the Tarantulas ins...I have played a few games using the Tarantulas instead of Tomahawks now, and they definitely affect my deployment by quite a bit. I have literally switched out the 6 hawks for 4 spideys and where I would normally have driven my hawks on and shot at a building with them, I am instead bringing the spideys through my two Eden's on turn 2 and depositing them behind a large building ready to jump on someone for turn 3. Getting the most out of the Tarantulas is not easy and you really need to know your army well. When they work though, they decimate! They have 3 Phobos and 3 Odins kills in 2 games so far!<br /><br />This means I have also had to adjust how I deploy my Havens. I would normally have brought them through the Eden's in turn 2, but as they are preoccupied I bring them through the Firedrake in turn 1. This doesn't limit my maneuverability as I have 2 spirits that can jump to the other side of the board if need be, but does mean I can't have a cheeky template shot on turn 1 (which to be fair typically only kills one thing if I'm lucky)!<br /><br />In my opinion I thin the Shaltari starter set is the best out of the lot! You will use all the gates (unlike in the other three where the land APC's don't get a look in), the Kukri's and the Jaguar too. The Tomahawks worth learning with as well, although may not stay in your list for long. Also I personally don't think it is worth taking less than 6 either so you would potentially have to buy another blister. Dan Cateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15833384756094198088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-10467030840744133672014-03-27T15:30:30.527+00:002014-03-27T15:30:30.527+00:00Also curious - what would you recommend for a star...Also curious - what would you recommend for a starting 500 points? Is the small Shaltari Starter Set any use competitively speaking vs the other starter sets?The Grim Badgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14819808034153258799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-66857923034761693782014-03-27T15:16:10.499+00:002014-03-27T15:16:10.499+00:00Very exciting! Thank you so much for the detailed ...Very exciting! Thank you so much for the detailed post! One question ( a noobie question at that) now that your planning to replace the tanks with walkers, do you envisage requiring more gates to negate their lack of manuevorability in comparison to the skimmers?The Grim Badgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14819808034153258799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-41665964343509304212014-03-09T10:32:42.232+00:002014-03-09T10:32:42.232+00:00Really helpful thanks, can't wait to get my sh...Really helpful thanks, can't wait to get my shaltari on the table. Planning on going to a few tourneys this year as well Gretskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-78043333709897130512014-02-28T14:27:56.084+00:002014-02-28T14:27:56.084+00:00I hear you buddy, this was more of a 'one off&...I hear you buddy, this was more of a 'one off' tactica and it was written to be in one place if needed. My future posts will be a little more staggered, but I do appreciate the input!Dan Cateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15833384756094198088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-75948407702466645572014-02-27T19:33:49.808+00:002014-02-27T19:33:49.808+00:00Let me clarify that: the article was great but one...Let me clarify that: the article was great but one read and then it is over - let the readers enjoy the expectations as well! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-32410936318846768732014-02-27T19:26:17.150+00:002014-02-27T19:26:17.150+00:00On another note... on my blog I found people have ...On another note... on my blog I found people have a tendency to read more on the blog if there are smaller articles. You have a lot of great material here but it wouldn't have damaged it (on the contrary, actually) if you would have split it up on three or even four parts. Just write the entire article and release it in small parts (don't write one part and release that then write next part) the best articles I got out was when the entire article was written and then divided and time-scheduled over, say two weeks. that means you can actually post when the next part will be released, causing some hype and a "tune in the next time for more of this". Expectations, man! Doing this builds a lot more expectations. <br /><br />Note, this is only whining because I think reading a lot is a bit awkward on a blog and after one read it is all over. But if it is divided I get that "cool, I'll check in on that date to get more"-feeling I personally like. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505622444708996182.post-81461365407675616102014-02-27T14:46:06.557+00:002014-02-27T14:46:06.557+00:00Cheers for the feedback! I could possibly do a mor...Cheers for the feedback! I could possibly do a more specific tactica aimed towards missions though it can be very tricky to advise on a game by game basis, due to the variability of opponents army choices. Food for thought though!Dan Cateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15833384756094198088noreply@blogger.com