Friday, 12 January 2018

The More Famous The More Fabulous

Blogging can be a dirty job. Having to wipe away the dust from your keyboard and chase away the spiders hidden under the number pad when you have some news to report on can be a filthy and jump-scare filled experience. At least though we have something to post about!

We have three spanky new Famous Commanders for you all to feast your peepers on, as well as a Q&A from TT Combat! Go on, treat yourself, take a looksie!

The Jungle Devil

The Weird Screamer Thing? No idea, probs don't want to know

The St Nick's War Sleigh
We saw the renders for the over-compensating Poseidon a while back, but have only seen the claw for the 'Hunter Killer Walker' and gun (I think) for the Jungle Devil during the last Christmas calendar (again, I think. Seriously it's been ages, I've had like four very unhappy unBirthdays during our down time).

It's nice to see newness after what seems like a Game of Thrones long Summer-time, but it's a shame I don't care about it? Any news is good news at the moment though of course! These also look to have an alternative painting style to previous miniatures and perhaps TTC have brought the miniature painting in house, which would be a shame because Hot Drop Studios clearly did a better job (#bitchydan).

In addition to the piccies above the ever-devoted Talon's Emily Kindlysides and Michel Goulmy put together a great set of questions with the help of the community and liaised directly with TT Combat for a few answers to questions pressing on fans minds, which I will sign off with just below (for clarity of source, the below was 100% stolen from Facebook).

Until next time, in four months, eat well and drink badly, or visa versa depending on your life style.

When will DZC and DFC be available on the webstore?
We’ve pencilled in the relaunch of the whole range of DZC and DFC on the TTCombat webstore for the end of this month.

What's the plan for US distribution?
We’re good to go pretty much whenever you are! Existing distributors from Hawk are still on board, so we’re just waiting for the orders. You know a store you’d like to see DZC and DFC in? Tell them! Tell them over and over until they have no choice. We’re working with more US distributors, but the process takes a while to sort out a good deal for both us and them. The more demand from retailers, the quicker the process will go!

How will you be addressing the issues with international support?
International (like Australia) is a bit harder than Europe and the USA, as those are the two biggest markets, and so are easiest to cater for! We’re looking to expand into the rest of the world soon too, it’s just a case of being able to find the right distributors and keep up with the demand! If you know of stores that want to stock our products, get them to email who deal with all of our retail orders.

Will TTC be providing regular updates on DzC and DFC? If so, through what channels?
Regular updates are a must! New miniatures and rules coming thick and fast once all the dust has settled. We’ll be updating our webstore, and providing information through there and here on Facebook! We’re planning on making a brand new website for Dropzone and Dropfleet that will have information, articles, background, rules, event information... lots of stuff!

How will we revitalize and/or grow the player base?
In our opinion there are two important things to:

1. Get the games into more retail stores. The more available the games are, the more people will pick them up. We work with a lot of retailers at the moment, but if you have a retailer you want to stock the games: tell them you want them. Then when they do stock them, buy stuff and offer to run events and demos!

2. Having the games in stores is well and good, but without new releases, no one will keep playing. We all know there’s been a lack of new releases over the last year, and that’s because Dave has been busy doing other stuff. Now he’s back on design, we’ll have more releases coming! Getting new releases out to the stores isn’t a quick process though, especially when taking over a new company. So please be patient with us! We’ll have lots of new stuff releasing frequently, which will really help keep people interested.

When will we receive information about the Talon program?
We’re looking to relaunch that this year. It’s very important to the game, and we’d like to make sure we’re doing it right. We’d been working on a similar scheme for RUMBLESLAM for a little while, and it seems sensible to combine everything into one place with a similar operating procedure. That doesn’t mean you’ll have to promote RUMBLESLAM or Carnevale if you just want to do DZC and/or DFC, but if you like more than one game you’ll be able to run events for all of our games and be supported through one channel (and use your points on all our ranges!).

Will TTC be at Gencon (or other shows) with DZC/DFC?
Yep, we’ll be at Gen Con and others in the States through Don, and will be flying the flag at UK Games Expo, Salute, and Crisis to name a few!

Will TTC be following up on Hawk's aborted plans to encourage organized play/tournaments?
We’d love to! We’ve got a lot to get sorted before jumping into organised play events and tournaments, but it’s something we’re currently doing for RUMBLESLAM, and something we’re writing the Carnevale rules to incorporate from the start. That idea will definitely carry over to DZC and DFC! Organised play is one of those things that’s hugely important to the hobby, and there’s nothing quite like getting a room full of excited gamers together! In all honesty though, running tournaments isn’t our priority right now – getting the miniatures made and out to stores is. All of that stuff will be a lot easier to keep running once the initial start up is done, and we’ll be able to shift our attention to more fun things like tournaments.

Where are the Ebooks and rumoured app for the games?

Is DZC V2 still on target for an April release?
Potentially, but we think we’d actually like to push it back a bit. We’re talking about the best way to get the new rules out, and aren’t quite decided yet. V2 rules are almost entirely written and tested, but there was never a plan in place to add anything else to the V2 release. We started our discussions off talking about whether Reconquest would be needed, and in the state we saw the new rules, you’d still need those books to play the complete factions. We’re not so keen on having to have multiple books to play a game, and it seems a little weird to back the new rules backwards compatible with older units, when this is an opportunity to consolidate everything that’s happened with the game up to this point, and also make a few tweaks while we’re at it. Of course, this version of V2 requires a lot more work, but would potentially see new miniatures, new story, new art, photos, and painted minis instead of just a new rule set.

With that in mind, we’re discussing a potential open beta for the new rules, as well as free downloads for all units. None of that is definite right now, but we’re talking about the best way to revitalise the game, and we’re not sure a quick release new rulebook is necessarily the answer.
Are the updated rules going to feel more streamlined than they currently are?
We think so!

Is there any way we can get rid of the D6 in DZC V2 and maybe introduce the D10?
We’re actually going to change it to a D2. Coinflip Commander is here!

When will we see DZC Reconquest Phase 2 units? Can we have a preview?
We’re hoping they’ll be available with the webstore launch. As for a preview, yeah why not?
Will there be a huge selection of 10mm scenery available for more varied game boards?
Yes. Huge selections of affordable scenery is our jam. In fact, Scott wanted to show a quick render of some of the MDF kits he’s been working on.

Will famous commanders be balanced for tournament and regular play?
This is a conversation we’ve been having quite a lot recently, and there are differing opinions on it. Personally I think that named characters should be able to be used no matter where you are, but others feel that they should deliberately be very good and not necessarily balanced for tournaments. We’d love to hear the community’s thoughts!

Where is the KS fulfillment?
Around 75% at time of writing.

When will we get our store credit for the undelivered Kickstarter stuff (maps, etc.)?
I’m afraid I can’t give an exact date for that. We’ll be sending them out to backers in waves – there’d be nothing worse than getting thousands of orders all in one week and putting a big delay on fulfilling them! We’re looking at Q1 this year for the first wave.

Will there be a look at internal faction balance in DFC?
Definitely at some point!

Will show exclusive models like the Athens ever be available as Hawk has done in the past?

When will we be seeing the "fifth race"?
TODAY! No, not really. I don’t have any specific answers for this one. Is “soon” a good enough answer? New races helps more people get into the game, as the more varied styles you have, the more likely you are to find something you really connect with. So yeah, it’s definitely on the horizon.

Any plans for a Voidgate only pack?
I don’t know! It’s kind of annoying that you need Cruisers to get Voidgates. I’ll ask around to see if there’s a chance to do them in resin. No promises!

What role will new ships (monitors, destroyers, dreadnoughts) play in the mechanics of DFC?
From Dave:
Monitors – Frigate sized ships but very heavily armoured (2+/3+), well armed but VERY slow. Fluff wise, they have no FTL capability and are really just mildly mobile orbital gun platforms.

Destroyers - basically they sit between Frigates and Cruisers in size, capability and cost. Generally (but not always), they require Weapons Free to get the most out of them (unlike Light Cruisers and Frigates) but pack very respectable firepower in return. Dreadnoughts - these are the absolute kings of the battlefield. Monstrous in size, massively armed and extremely hard to kill. A serious investment in points (at tournament level especially). Total bullet magnets with massive signatures - a big commitment but a scary prospect to face.


  1. Good to see you still covering dropzone, despite the long winter of discontent! Are you still play testing for Hawk, since TTC took over?

    Cheers SB

    1. Nope, not been contacted by TT or Dave at all, which makes me nervous- not that I'm saying that we know best, but y'know, we kinda do.

      We had a big chat with Hawk 'as was' before everything went down though and gave them our thoughts, so perhaps it's not surprising that it's all quiet on the Drop Front.

  2. What do you guys think of the TTcombat video?

    Do you have any insider knowledge?

    1. Delaying V2 until '19 is probably a good thing in the long run, but I'm really not sold on Phase 3 being for both Zone and Fleet. Duel expansions will likely make the games more similar, and although Fleet could really do with being more like Zone the reverse would be dreadful.

      I'll give the V2 Beta rules a read but if they're anything like the last draft I read, I'm still not interested in V2. Here's hoping some fresh perspective changed things up!

  3. Cheers Dan, actions speak louder than words so let's hope TTcombat van deliver some good dropzone stuff over the next 6-12 months.

    One thing which continues to frustrate me is TTC's use of Facebook over the Hawk forum- I just don't think you get the same quality of debate and future strategy reference on Facebook....speaking of which, I am starting a 2nd army....scourge; and your (+ Mike's) articles/tournament reports on scourge are a fantastic resource - so thanks for that gift to the community...

    ...does kinda make me a little sad too, as reminds me of dropzone's golden days and how vibrant things were - my plea to TTC is, to quote Gladiator, "we believed it once, make us believe it again"